also, right, i forgot, i like to play this game in my head of "what would i think of [band boy x] if he only got famous when [y]" and my best example is what if brendon only got famous like with this album and ryan and jon were like two dudes that played on their first two records that no-one listened to and someone found out that they tried to start their own band ones and isn't that weird and they found these HILAROUS ancient pictures of being at like 17/18 where he's wearing like that gayest shit ever like lavender hoodies and totally wasn't at all the classy-suit-wearing dude we all know and love and spencer looked like a girl and what the fuck

imagine if people only knew brendon in suits

imagine